[Folks, due to time constraints, I won’t always comment on individual yet interesting posts. I will leave it to the volunteers and readers to make their own comments.

On the new site, which we will start linking to in the near future as “work in progress”… we will look at possibly posting all news for comments in keeping with making the website very interactive. Jan]

I’ll begin by noting that I’m new to this website (member’s post in an african website led me here). Let me assure you that I’ll be honest and non-confrontational in my critique of your views and those of the right-wing white Africans/Europeans/Americans present in AfricanCrisis.

To begin with, your logic is significantly distorted on several issues and the misinformation that abounds here is astounding. A glaring example would be your unabashed pro-apartheid stance (notwithstanding the theft, rape and murder of innocent individuals….in addition to the “white economic empowerment/affirmitive action” that came with apartheid). Yet, you are quick to whine about BEE, land appropriation and the EVIL ANC then claim that you are not an “active/malign racist”.Your “chameleon-esque” positions definitely throw your credibility out the window. Take a position and be proud of it. If you identify with apartheid, by all means be proud of it. But it also means you’ll have to accept the fact that you lost the battle-in contemporary S.Sfrican politics-and take it up the behind like a man.

You talk about black inferiority, and credit any semblance of civilization in Africa to white colonialists, forgetting that the superiority of civilizations/nations is cyclical. Just two hundred years ago the USA was considered backward. Like Africa today, colonialists like the British, were responsible for most of the technologies and products used in 18th and 19th century USA. Let’s also not forget that the Romans looked down upon the present day Germans(to be specific….they were savages).
Furthermore, Africa has had its great periods. The Egyptians(black in upper Egypt and lighter in lower Egypt) were without a doubt a great civilization. Not to mention Nubia(fully black) which colonized Egypt and at one point had the world’s largest empire. Africa also had the likes of Aksum, Swahili and other civilizations that led to the numerous ruins around the continent like Great Zimbabwe(which Rhodesians at one point claimed was a remnant of some mysterious white people)Gedi, Kilwa and Thimlich Ohinga.

In short, just stop for a moment and consider that your grand children or their children might be colonized by my children or grandchildren. Possible scenario…..a black African(s) figures out the workings of gravity and leverages that technology to their advantage….like Europeans used Chinese gunpowder and rocketry to conquer the world. Only time will tell, I guess.

In conclusion, I’ll have to give you credit for doing what you can for your brethren. I also respect your decision to live with your own…perhaps by getting a country of your own. But you also have to consider that black Africans have a right to want to live with their own….the so called Africa for Africans, as Europe is for Europeans and Asia is for Asians. Please note that I’m not suggesting that non-natives in Africa, Europe or Asia should emigrate from their respective countries/continents….quite the contrary. As an avowed “ultra-capitalist” and globalist I believe that people should learn to live in harmony beside each other regardless of race, ethnicity or religion. I, for example, would co-exist with a “little green man from space” if the relationship was mutually beneficial. The crucial factor here is integration, which the US has done more than any other country on the planet(to my knowledge). Without integration, the future of white S.Africans in Africa is bleak…..like it was for the white people in 19th century Haiti.

ANTHONY Replied:
“A glaring example would be your unabashed pro-apartheid stance (notwithstanding the theft, rape and murder of innocent individuals….in addition to the “white economic empowerment/affirmitive action” that came with apartheid)”.

Taharka,
We are always happy to hear constructive criticism from black africans but please dont come on here posting regirgitated leftist lies. We’re not liberal idiots. Our bullsh*t sensors are very accurate.

I wonder how much you really know about apartheid..?
How many ‘innocent’ people (blacks) were ‘murdered or raped’ during apartheid. Where are the death camps, the mass graves, the gas chambers? Where Taharka where?
The biggest ‘atrocity’ the ANC can accuse us of in 350 years of white rule is Sharpeville where 69 blacks were shot by police in 1960. The original news reports totally contradict the ANC lie that these were peaceful rioters. But lets, for the sake of argument say they were. Ok, 69 blacks killed by white police 46 years ago – big deal – much worse atrocities are commonplace in black africa – the only diff is that when blacks kill blacks nobody cares because its expected of them – but when whites kill blacks
the whole world screams bloody murder. Why? Because its very rare and whites are expected to behave better than blacks. You know its true.

As for you snide remark about ‘white economic empowerment’ – thats absurd – when did whites ever need any advatages vis a vis blacks? Its only blacks who always demand special treatment, like the spoilt dysfunctional children most of them are.

The only reason we needed apartheid was to stop your species overwhelming us with their crime, their chaos, their noise, their filth, their total disrespect for civilised standards and rules and, last but not least, their PARASITICAL behaviour. The real reason why blacks hated apartheid was that it limited their ability to parasite off us..! Actually I’m not convinced most blacks cared a jot until self-serving politicians ordered them to ‘hate apartheid’. If whites are really so bad and so racist why would they want to live with us and work for us, etc, etc??? Why do they all want to go to white countries? Bet you cant answer that without resorting to lies and sanctimonious bullshit..!

You talk about Africa for the blacks. What about Europe for the whites? What are all your species doing there Taharka – why are millions more so desperate to submit themselves to white racism? Why are you in NY? I bet you dont spend much time in filthy Mombasa any more. Why, Taharka, why?

BTW – Great Zimbabwe was rescued from overgrown bush and painstakingly restored by white Rhodesians in the 1920’s-30’s. Whites respect black history and achievements “ trouble is theres not much to respect, but what there is we do cherish and protect. Unlike blacks who, as soon as they take over a white-created entity, deliberately destroy all memory of the whites. Contrast with Singapore, where 40 years after independence there are more places named after the Stamford Raffles than before. And no colonial statues have been removed. Why? Easy -Singapore has made a great success of its independence, unlike African blacks. They are openly proud of their colonial origins Taharka..!! Why is Kenya not? Because blacks have made it a festering shithole, thats why..!

All but a tiny minority of Rhodesians (and SA whites) accept that GZ was built by blacks. We don™t have a problem with it. Why should we? Its primitive architecture, nothing to be especially proud of anyway. The most famous part – the solid beehive tower (no internal floors like far older European buildings) was built as recently as the 1700’s. And the rest is not much older. If it were anywhere else in the world nobody would even bother with it, unless it were very ancient which its not.

And pulleaze dont get me going on the PYRAMIDS..!!
The fact that they have internal chambers built to mathematical precision PROVES they werent built by blacks.
Or by Egyptian Arabs for that matter. I’m not saying white caucasians built them either, but Negroes certainly didn™t.
And yes I know about the much smaller, much later, much more primitive Meroe pyramids in Nubia. We never said blacks cant copy to some degree.

“If you’re black you can be excused for anything”
Ian Douglas Smith (who ruled a prosperous Rhodesia for 15 years and didnt steal a damn penny..!)

JAN Replied:
Hi Taharka,
Thanks for your comments on AfricanCrisis. I’m going to post them. Due to time constraints I can’t reply to everything in person, but my volunteers will chat.

We’ll open more new forums in the near future where much more interactive discussions and more post can be put up.

I think there is also much history and discussion which is needed between blacks and whites.

I disagree with some of your understanding of history. You need to study Apartheid and Colonialism more closely. You’ll see you’re wrong on a number of points.