[I just could not resist commenting on this rubbish which came out of Congressman Murtha’s mouth. Even more shocking is that this man was once a US Marine.

Take a look at this rubbish:
“A former Marine and a prominent critic of the Bush administration’s policies in Iraq, Murtha reiterated his views that the war cannot be won militarily and needs political solutions. He said the more than 100,000 troops in Iraq should be pulled out immediately, and deployed to peripheral countries like Kuwait.”

Do you realise what he is really saying? He is saying… that 100,000 American troops – in the most sophisticated army on earth – cannot beat some ragheads with knives and bombs running around in Iraq.

I need to be more specific though:-
1. If Murtha is saying that you can’t win that war with 100,000 troops AT ALL – then he is talking rubbish.
2. If Murtha is saying that you can’t win that war with 100,000 troops while fighting it using “Politically Correct” tactics – then I will agree with him.

It is kinda soppy for him to have to admit this, but it is true. The current strategy won’t win, and that’s because it is based too much on winning the enemy’s hearts and minds.

But BEWARE of that nice sounding word “Political Solutions”. That can be even uglier than the war. That is when the USA has to pay off the enemy in the hope that they will stop fighting. This is all about dealing with the devil and giving the devil what he wants in the hope that it will get him off your back. From what I’ve been reading of the CIA’s so-called “Political Solutions”, I think war is a much better alternative – because make no mistake, these “Political solutions” not only cost the US taxpayer a heap of money, but the US Govt also then ends up dealing with all the low-life scum of the world, trying to keep them happy instead of putting them in their place. This, to quote Winston Churchill, is a case of “feeding the crocodile in the hope that he eats you last.”

The most important lessons which military people apparently learned from the war in Vietnam and Malaya, was the need to “win hearts and minds”. It was used in Rhodesia and South Africa belatedly too. But I am sitting back and questioning this modern deep belief that you need to make your enemy love you. I’m actually wondering if it really is necessary or even desirable.

Murtha said: “U.S. efforts to win over Iraqis were tarnished when it was revealed that U.S. military personnel had abused and humiliated people held at Abu Ghraib, a prison outside Baghdad.”

To be frank with you, I think all the “American atrocities” and “American misconduct” are overblown. The enemy doesn’t seem to have to much of a problem sawing off someone’s head and I don’t hear too much outrage at that.

I don’t think that one actually needs to always be too concerned about what EVERYONE out there thinks about you. To pander to everyone on the planet also has a lot of draw-backs. Is it really all that important to make friends with militant Islam? They don’t want to be “friends” anyway… they want to conquer and destroy the Western world, especially the USA. So why do you want to win “their hearts and minds?”

I think these Muslims have a highly overblown view of themselves and their rather bloodthirsty religion, and they need some levelling down themselves. Blowing up their already over-exaggerated egos isn’t going to do them any good. They need to be put in their place and reminded where they fit in the pecking order.

I do agree with Murtha that at the rate things are going, the USA is losing – inch by inch. But I do not think it is unwinnable at all. The Israelis have been doing a pretty good job of winning and keeping the Arabs at bay for the last 60 years. But their methods are different… and that’s why they could achieve what the USA can’t achieve now.

And part of war requires getting down and being quite a nasty dog. You can’t invite terrorists over for tea and biscuits and chat to them and hope that suddenly they will hug you and tell you it was a terrible mistake! You may have to be really rough with them, beating people up, blowing their brains out and SOWING TERROR among them!! You may at times even have to commit real atrocities and even shoot a good number of their “unarmed assistants” who are spying for them, or helping to keep the terror network alive.

I think one of the modern FAULTS with war against terrorists is the concept that you only shoot at people who are shooting at you. That, in fact, is one of the mistakes. The guy who shoots at you or who plants the bomb is merely the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty of “non-combatants” without whose support, he can’t function. If you knock them off… then he won’t be shooting at you or planting that bomb. I’d be destroying the terrorist infrastructure and preventing them from functioning at all.

The rules of combat in Iraq are so skewed that the USA is not going to be able to win, unless those rules are changed. But the political leaders of the USA seem to be such complete wimps over the slightest issue… that frankly… I can’t believe that any American man in his right mind would actually feel like FIGHTING A WAR when the leaders themselves are so completely wishy washy. Why risk your life and limb when your own leaders prosecute you because you did not remember to love and care for the very people trying to kill you. If I were an American man, I’d emigrate! I wouldn’t waste my time fighting for leaders who are such wimps that whenever the slightest little imagined infringement occurs that they want to prosecute the troops and their officers.

I think the whole situation is completely insane. Iraq is a winnable war which is going to be lost because the senior leaders in the US Govt are a bunch of idiots who haven’t got the faintest clue about how to deal with a bunch of idiot terrorists who can hardly even shoot straight. What I find completely ridiculous about the situation is how a bunch of ragheads are starting to intimidate the mighty American structures. Jan]

Pull out of Iraq now, congressman urges
Cover-up of Haditha killings wrong, he says

By Elizabeth Baier
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted June 25 2006

American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, U.S. Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to a crowd of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon.

Murtha was the guest speaker at a town hall meeting organized by U.S. Rep. Kendrick B. Meek, D-Miami, at Florida International University’s Biscayne Bay Campus. Meek’s mother, former U.S. Rep. Carrie Meek, D-Miami, was also on the panel.

War veterans, local mayors, university students and faculty packed the Mary Ann Wolfe Theatre to listen to the three panelists discuss the war in Iraq for an hour.

A former Marine and a prominent critic of the Bush administration’s policies in Iraq, Murtha reiterated his views that the war cannot be won militarily and needs political solutions. He said the more than 100,000 troops in Iraq should be pulled out immediately, and deployed to peripheral countries like Kuwait.

“We do not want permanent bases in Iraq,” Murtha told the audience. “We want as many Americans out of there as possible.”

Murtha also has publicly said that the shooting of 24 Iraqis in November at Haditha, a city in the Anbar province of western Iraq that has been plagued by insurgents, was wrongfully covered up.

The killings, which sparked an investigation into the deadly encounter and another into whether they were the subject of a cover-up, could undermine U.S. efforts in Iraq more than the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib in 2004, Murtha said.

“[The United States] became the target when Abu Ghraib came along,” Murtha said.

U.S. efforts to win over Iraqis were tarnished when it was revealed that U.S. military personnel had abused and humiliated people held at Abu Ghraib, a prison outside Baghdad.

Most in the crowd agreed with Murtha and the need to redeploy troops from Iraq as soon as possible. “I believe we are in a mess over there [in Iraq],” said Alnoor Jamal, 49, of Miami.

Elizabeth Baier can be reached at [email protected] or 954-356-4637.

URL: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/browar…/p>