Did Blacks build the Pyramids & other discussions…

Original Post Date: 2004-02-29  Posted By: Jan

From the News Archives of: WWW.AfricanCrisis.Org
Date & Time Posted: 2/29/2004 4:50:56 PM
Did Blacks build the Pyramids & other discussions…

[I thought people might find these thoughts based on answers to questions people posed in the site’s guestbook interesting. Jan]

Replies to everyone:-

To Fred,
I agree with you mate. Third World Aid is a big waste. People outside Africa have no idea how wastefully their well-intentioned dollars and pounds are wasted. All the black African leaders want is money. But you won’t see much of it reaching the poor people at the bottom. I love your definition of how to help those countries. Design a dam and they must build it under Western supervision. (They won’t like that because
they can’t just use those billions of dollars for all sorts of wasteful things!!!)

To Emma,
You ask about child sponsorship. I’d feel like a dog telling you not to do it. If in your heart you feel you’d like to give something to a black child, then go for it. I’m not going to tell you not to do it. I feel it is very kind of you to want to give something to someone else. Go for it. Try it and give expression to your love for humanity. In the process you will learn things.

I know too, that loving like this is very much what a woman wants to do. I see Alice has the same loving attitude. Its a woman’s way, and the way the female mind works. Women think all problems can be solved through love. This is incorrect. There comes a time too for a more male attitude where one must also recognise that someone is being UNREASONABLE and one must put one’s foot down instead of being taken for a ride and being proven a fool.

Emma, do what your heart tells you. Even if it doesn’t work then you can always know in your heart that you tried to do a good thing. I’ve been there. Don’t think I’ve not done my bit. You’re looking at someone who was swindled out of thousands of rands trying to help black Zimbabweans. Been there, done that. It just proved to me in practise that what I had believed all along was right.

To Alice,
Re: Solution to South Africa’s problems.
Fred’s answer to your question is excellent. I agree with his views. But let me try my own reply:-

There are many possible solutions, depending on what one can stomach.
1. If you want a multiracial society here that works, you first have to execute and drive out all the socialists, Marxists, etc (of all colours – but they’ll mostly be black). Then, the whites, blacks, etc who remain alive – who will be the reasonable ones left – should be able to live together in reasonable harmony. Of course, this will never happen. So we can forget this option.

2. What is more likely to happen is – nothing – nobody has the will, the stomach, etc to take a harsh course of action, nor does anyone in any of the race groups have the stomach for this. So I believe in the long run, the ANC will hunt us down, sideline us, push us into a corner – put our backs against the wall. I hope that at some point the whites fight and break away and form a country of their own. They can then decide who will live in that country and what the rules will be.

You ask what the world should do:-
I would like to see the world taking a much firmer stance against Black governments. I can see how the world works. The rest of the world thinks that all they have to do is treat the blacks of Africa equally and be kind and generous to them. The rest of the world thinks that love solves all problems. But you people do not realise the mentality of the people who have come to power on this continent. In your quiet, civilised countries you think love and talk can solve all problems. You people have a lot to learn. I’m predicting that IN THE END, all that love, generosity, etc will come to nothing. In the end, you will discover that black Africans are like children. If you don’t set boundaries for them they will run amuck and play you for all you’re worth. You will find that what Africa needs is PARENTHOOD. That is what Colonialism and Apartheid were about – they were about whites setting boundaries. You may think this is a silly thing.
But watch Africans. Watch their countries… (a) They can’t solve their own problems. (b) They’ll kick against you solving it for them – but in the end, you will be so horrified at what they get up to that you’ll see that others have to impose boundaries for them.

This White Guilt trip across the planet is a very bad thing indeed and it must stop. Its actually going to make the blacks much worse because they’ll milk all of us for all we’re worth.

You’ll find blacks are pleasant people. But blacks are excellent at being friendly, schmoozing and TALKING. But when it gets down to GETTING THE JOB DONE, then they fall down on the job. Then when you try to figure out why you’ll see they’ve always got one more excuse.

The thing you whites elsewhere have to understand is that when you’re dealing with Africa its like you’re dealing with a bunch of naughty teenagers. They’re clever enough to argue with you, almost appear to be your equals, but they’re really irresponsible. They want to pretend they’re adults when in fact they’re not. They will always be coming up with excuses for their lack of performance and in the end, nothing positive will get done. It will just be talk, talk, talk – and the suffering continues.

You must keep in mind whites in Africa have a very PRACTICAL mentality. We like to get things done, and we’re not really into talking. We’ve learned that blacks are full of stories, promises, etc. But at the end of the day you face this issue of excuses, excuses, excuses… They can’t do what others can, and when you confront them they’ll always find some excuse or someone else to blame. Eventually, when you have been with them long enough you’ll see what a waste it is.

Personally, I’m fedup with wanting to improve their lives. I’ve reached the point where I think reasonable people in our country (be they whites, asians, etc) – should break with the blacks and do their own thing. Blacks are a bunch of failures and they drag us down. I NEVER used to be in favour of a white country in Africa, but now I am. I believe black Africans are losers. I believe the only way they will ever learn is to be thrown in the deep end. All aid to Africa must be stopped. Africa must be forced to develop by itself. All these masses of aid to Africa teach blacks nothing.

Look at Zimbabwe. The blacks do not appreciate white farmers so they destroy them. The correct response should be to let them DIE! Let them DIE! Then they’ll learn their lessons quickly. Call it tough love. But you must be with them like you are with a naughty child. Let him cross the line – slap him hard – or let him fall flat on his face. Don’t help him up. Let him struggle up himself. Don’t molly coddle them. Don’t suck up to them. Leave them to rot. Then when they have suffered good and hard and they beg you for help you set extremely strict conditions. Very strict conditions – do like Fred says. They want a dam. Send engineers to plan it and supervise its construction. DONT GIVE THEM MONEY. EVER. They will waste it.

You may think I’m talking junk but we know them better than you people, and you will see in the end, we will be proven right.

So I hope that answers your question of whether one should help blacks. The problem is, blacks have had it too easy. They scream and the world comes running with money. Then they start getting all naughty. They think everyone is indebted to them. What they need is a kick up the ass to see that they are nothing – that they are like everyone else. That, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD, they must work, and if they don’t – they die. That’s how it is FOR EVERYONE ELSE. Do the Chinese, Japanese or Indians run around begging people for food? No, they take care of themselves. Blacks are babies and whites everywhere just want to run and hug them and love them and they think this will make it better. It doesn’t. It makes it worse. Blacks are so spoiled rotten that they think they’re the bees knees and they can just throw a tantrum and everyone will be nice to them. What they need, like a very naughty child is a good spanking. They need to be put in their place.

You think you can give blacks advice. Let me tell you, we, who built Africa have told them the answers, but they want to be spiteful. They want to be uppity. They want to show they don’t have to listen. So they do stupid things which get people and animals killed. They need to learn to value good, decent advice and to LISTEN when it is given to them. Instead they are egotistical and behave like a bunch of little prima donnas. Meanwhile, each African country is a little tin pot nation filled with crime, corruption and failure, but they want to strutt the world stage AS IF THEY ARE THE EQUALS OF EUROPEAN OR ASIAN nations of quality. They have inflated egos.

Understand this – blacks have lots of character flaws of their own which they need to work out. Their own egos, chips on their shoulders, fears, etc – these are things they have to come to grips with. Love is what a mother gives. Blacks have had more than enough of that. What they need is the firm hand of a father to put limits on them as well.

That’s my assessment.

When you come to South Africa do yourself a favour. Speak to people of different races. They will tell you a guy like me is extreme. But the difference is some of us have lived through more African history and we have ZERO faith in black people. We’ve tried, and seen that there’s little one can do with them. You know Apartheid and Colonialism were great solutions. In Apartheid the Afrikaners said: Here, this is your land do with it what you want. The blacks of course couldnt – and the whites prospered. Under Apartheid, the Indians prospered. They were treated the same as the blacks. Why did the Indians prosper but blacks couldn’t? Because Indians have brains and they work hard. If the blacks could succeed, then they would have. And there were a few super-rich blacks even under Apartheid. When a man has talent, he’ll succeed. But there’s little you can do for many. The black race has a lot of talentless people in it. You can try helping them up to your eyeballs but the minute you stop they’ll fall right back to the same old level they were at.

How many blacks have been taught to farm and to grow things? The UN has poured billions into projects like that. FACT: In Johannesburg, 80% of self-help schemes have failed. Go figure. In Africa, many blacks are only capable of a subsistence existence and their governments are hardly any better. These people are merely returning to the level they can understand and cope with. Colonialism and Apartheid raised them far higher than they could ever cope with. So now that we are out of the picture they are falling back to a natural level.

What I resent is them pretending they can do better when in fact they can’t and then to have the gall to come and blame us for their lives, when, by themselves, they’d never even come close to what they had with us. But they don’t even have the decency to admit that they got benefits from us.

However, let me take you inside the black mind and clear up the issue. The issue is not that colonialism nor whites were worse (that’s their excuse). They know the reality, but won’t admit it. However, what they resent is the WAY in which they got their benefits. They did not like us ordering them around. That’s really the issue. Its an issue of bruised egos. But these are issues inside of themselves that neither you nor I can sort out. Its between them and God.

To: Mohamed,
re: Name changes
We don’t like it, and it irritates us, but whereever blacks take over they love changing names. Its a way of stroking their own egos to show that THEY are now in charge. Of course it costs a lot of money but they love it.

I agree, I like a lot of the posts that have occurred recently. The guest book wasn’t meant to be a forum, but what the heck. Its fun, and I’m enjoying it. I am battling to keep up though in replying. Yes, the Red Indian man’s post was interesting. I have a Red Indian lady friend in the USA and she said very similar things. She said blacks were whiners and they had no pride. The Red Indians have pride. I thought that was pretty neat.

But you see, it proves my point. Blacks are the Spoiled Children of Planet Earth. EVERYONE ELSE, gets NO FREE MEALS. Only blacks do. Blacks are the baby whiners of our planet (not everyone – you get some very successful and able blacks too – but the majority are whiners).

And I know history is unfair to lots of people. But blacks make out like they’re the only people who ever were wronged. And that’s just a load of bull. Everyone got it in the teeth at one time or another in their history. If only blacks would be more honest about things. I’m actually not a war-mongering sort of person, and in my younger days wanted to live and let live. But I’m getting sick of blacks, ESPECIALLY when they start blaming us for things we did not do or making out like all whites ever did was kick blacks down. Blacks did not get the rawest deal of anyone on the planet.

re: Genocide
Yes, you are correct. Whites NEVER engaged in genocide of blacks. If we wanted to kill the blacks en masse, we had all the opportunity you could hope for, but we never did, and it is a historical fact that their population EXPLODED due to the white man’s medicine. Blacks slaughter each other – and yes, at times they have set upon Muslims and Indians. Apparently there are other instances of such slaughter other than Zanzibar. But there’s so much history to Africa. We have said all along, the blacks also slaughtered each other and often our presence brought peace. Make no mistake, some blacks allied themselves with whites in the hope that we’d help them to defeat other blacks. Let’s not pretend that blacks are saints and angels – because they’re not and never were. There were lots of wars between blacks and blacks. Then too there were battles between blacks and whites. But when in African history will you find a slaughter like Rwanda and find Whites or Asians were behind it? NEVER. That’s what they do to each other.

>u know that after independence of most black african countreis indians where not given
>citizenship,they were murdered,were looted,chased from their property and as a group were
>exterminated(ex:ugandas 80,000 indians).and most of their wealth confisicated.
>but south africa as a white country in the days of apartheid when the country became a republic
>granted indians the citizenship,gave them good education,political power from 1983,and had also good wealth.

This is absolutely true. Blacks have actually been much more vicious towards Indians than to whites. I think in part, blacks are more scared of whites. Indians tend to be interested in commerce, making some money, and living in peace. So I think that is part of the reason why blacks were more aggressive to them – because they felt they could get away with it. We whites tend not to take so much nonsense from them – and frankly, I believe it has actually saved our lives. That’s why I’m reminding people about this. It is very important to stand up to them – even when one is outnumbered.

The Indians have done well in South Africa even under Apartheid because they have talent and they make things happen. All Asian people are like that.

Let me tell you that under Apartheid, there were places and rules which said: Blacks/Indians can’t do this. But those rules also said: Whites can’t do this. This is forgotten. For example, whites were not allowed to own/trade in certain areas because that was for blacks/Indians, etc. So rules weren’t totally unfair. There was room for the blacks too – if they took hold of those opportunities. As it turned out, the Indians made the most of the rules, etc – and they prospered. They often owned businesses catering for blacks. OFTEN. Indians made big money there. Now if blacks had had the savvy, they could also have done the same. That the Indians could, but the blacks could not (though they both lived under the same rules), is the proof that the blacks only have themselves to blame.

If the blacks were more of a go-getter type of people, then they could have made successes of their “countries”. Remember, Indians weren’t given LAND – but blacks WERE!! Yet, the Indians still outperformed them. Blacks had plenty of opportunities.

>I know an indian here who had gone to see the world cup in south africa in 2003 saying that
>he met an indian from durban who had told him that at the time of apartheid they were only
>told not live and work in some areas but there was no other problems, even they could open
>their doors and go outside. but now if they were in their house also blacks would come with
>ak47 and gun them down and steal their property.it has become unlivable it seems.

Listen to me – blacks make out like Apartheid was much much MUCH worse than it really was. I’m telling you, that Indians had pretty much the same rules as the blacks – but you see, they were pretty cool with it. I’ll bet you that Indians in South Africa, even under Apartheid, lived better than many Indians in India. Most Indians in South Africa don’t want to leave.
But what your friend says is right. I’ve even heard of Indians who have said they’d rather have Apartheid back (to hell with voting, etc) – because they had a higher standard of living back then. I’m telling you, blacks make a big hue and cry about Apartheid, Colonialism, etc – but those rules were there for a reason.

The “pass laws”… You know why? Because if you don’t put some restrictions on movement you get the mess you get now… look at Nigerian criminals, Zimbabweans and God knows what flooding into this country!!
Guess what – LOTS of BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS now want us to chuck BLACKS, yes, BLACKS out of this country!! Why? They say blacks from the northern countries are taking their jobs. There has even been violence between South African blacks and blacks from other countries. Maybe they’d appreciate the value of “pass books”. Anyway, the “pass books” were actually “passports” because we lived in different “countries” under Apartheid. Let me tell you what happened to me under Apartheid. A relative of mine got married and I had to fly to Umtata which was in a Black Homeland to attend the wedding. Me, as a WHITE, I was not allowed to get on an aircraft because I did not have a passport at the time. I, as a WHITE, was stopped from going into a black homeland – I was stopped by whites at Johannesburg airport. See, the RULES applied to EVERYONE. I had to miss my relative’s wedding. But blacks will whine about these things like it was the end of the world.

To: Jim,
So you say this is a racist site buddy! Well, mate, a lot of your facts about Africa are wrong. But welcome to the real world, where we speak about the way people really are instead of sitting like a bunch of sheep pretending everyone is equal and the same. I have no problem with people of other races, but I feel people should be honest. Facts are facts, and on this site, we deal with facts.

To: Yual,
You raise a *LOT* of issues. I’ll try to write to you later. I do admire some of the R&D you are doing. You are obviously not a brain-dead African. That’s nice to see.

Very quickly: Did you say South African whites helped the Germans in some way to kill Jews?? I’ve never heard of anything like that. You will never find that whites from Africa in any way slaughtered the Jews. There were some NAZI sympathizers here during WWII. But they were the minority. South Africa has always been split during the World Wars, but each time it sided with England. If you are looking for mass graves of anyone – Jews or Blacks or anyone else you won’t find it in South Africa. Afrikaners may have their faults, but they’re not the butchers they’ve been made out to be. They got the rawest public relations deal anyone on this planet ever got. I doubt there is a group of people on this planet who have been more smeared with lies than the Afrikaners.

Re: Great Zimbabwe…
Fascinating subject… I must write more on it. I actually did some digging and chased up the expert on Great Zimbabwe – he is a white from Zimbabwe – a Professor who lectures at Wits University in Johannesburg. Wits is very PC.

Personally, I question whether blacks could have built it. There is a guy, search the web for him: Cyril Hromnick. He wrote a book – which I think is on Amazon.com. He says Great Zimbabwe has a building style identical to that found in INDIA! It is known that Indians came to Africa before whites. They mined gold here! I have a tendency to believe that Indians may have built Zimbabwe. Thought the academics will want to draw and quarter me. (Its not PC to say that blacks didn’t do it… The liberal professors wont even dare to THINK it). But when I grew up in Rhodesia we were taught of the “Monomatapa”. The theory is that there was a great black empire in Southern Africa 500 years ago. But in reality, the Monamatapa theory seems to me to be based on very little physical evidence. I know they speak of finding “stone age” tools there – which to me doesn’t sound like much of a “civilisation”. Zimbabwe is not a huge city. Its not even a town/village. Its this strange building with some other buildings around it in the middle of the African bush.

Also, in Zimbabwe, there is apparently some kind of irrigation works. My suspicion is that some Indians came and mined here and they built these things to facilitate their work. I don’t think there ever was a “great civilisation” here.

Re: The Pyramids.
I like your reference to whites written descriptions of Egyptians. But maybe it was that blacks lived among Egyptians!? Remember, blacks weren’t unknown. Personally, I question whether even the Egyptians built it. I like that new book which points out the erosion of the Sphinx. Very significantly, the Sphinxes head is far too small for its body, thus suggesting that the orignal head was much larger. The Egyptians might be taking credit for something not even they did. What’s the bet an Egyptian pharoh had the head carved and took credit for something that was there long before?

I don’t believe blacks built the pyramids simply because blacks are very weak on maths. The pyramids reek of maths. Engineering is NOT something blacks are strong on. So that’s why I don’t believe they ever did those things.

Also, suppose you are right and blacks built the pyramids – then it means the hieroglyphics were theirs too… then it would mean they could write. Why then don’t blacks have a written language anywhere in Africa? They were only taught writing a 100 years ago by white missionaries who wrote down their languages for the first time. But why didn’t blacks keep their writings if they built the pyramids?

I was chatting to a buddy of mine who loves history. He put forward the theory that whites never developed in Europe until the Romans conquered them – and left them with Latin. He says that the “barbarians” only developed once they could WRITE. He therefore says blacks could never have developed because they couldn’t write until we taught them to. Writing preserves knowledge. You need writing, and you need numbers – and the wheel. Blacks never had any of those things. Without those things they could never develop further.

Those are my thoughts.

To Nimrod,
I’m not going to get into the issue of Hitler. Some of history is also subjective, and we get many different types visiting this site. Suffice it to say when I likened us to the Jews in NAZI Germany, I was drawing the parallel on how Hitler encouraged the Germans to go against the Jews. The Jews were a minority set upon through hatred preached by the leader of the nation. To me, this is no different to what Mugabe has done in Zimbabwe, and to what Mbeki is subtley angling towards in this country. That was the point I was trying to make. I’m not going to get into the historical issues around Hitler. Hitler is a heavy subject and its not relevant to this site.

Its all good and fine to tell us to separate from the blacks. But that is what whites tried under Apartheid – to put some distance and then to still have some form of federation. But as you can see, the whites got hammered by the WHOLE WORLD for doing that. So you must also be practical and understand the reticence most whites now have of speaking their minds because they’ve had their asses kicked into line by the whole world. So understand, we are 4 million people outnumbered on all sides with very few friends in the outside world – and certainly, no single country will want to align itself with us. Our options are very limited.

So most whites have just accepted things as a fait accompli and they live their lives in line with what has been forced upon them.

Having said that, I believe, in time, events will run their course, and I believe the blacks, now that they are in charge will attack us when it suits them. When that day comes, I have a certain amount of hope that by then, we’ll have more friends overseas, and that we may be able to get arms to defend ourselves. Then maybe we can break away from the blacks. By then maybe the blacks will have ruined the country so much, that others will understand why we can’t carry on like this with them. If South Africa and Namibia end up like Zimbabwe then maybe the rest of the world will understand. So that is my long term hope for us.

Rest assured, the current system cannot continue indefinitely. The blacks have shown time and again that once they’re the top dogs, they’ll pursue us. Like they threw the Indians out of countries and killed them in others – so too, have they tried to nail whites. They’ll try to drive us out through dirty tricks and also maybe force. The blacks are failures, and their failures will force desperate strategies upon them. Its not us who can’t co-exist with them. Its them who can’t co-exist with anybody.

But they want their cake all the way… they want to also live in Europe and America while kicking us whites out of Africa. The blacks want EVERYTHING THEIR WAY. They want to be treated like equals while at the same time begging like babies, etc. Blacks don’t want equal rules, they want super special treatment beyond what anyone else on the planet gets.

One of my hopes is that as blacks spread around the planet and come to a suburb near you, that maybe whites and asians will stop giving black countries special treatment and start waking up to the fact that black African leaders are nothing more than smiling thieves who come to steal from you by abusing your kindness.

Thanks to EVERYONE their thoughts and input.

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