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Original Post Date: 2004-01-23 Posted By: Jan
From the News Archives of: WWW.AfricanCrisis.Org
Date & Time Posted: 1/23/2004 7:09:29 AM
The Many Lies about Zimbabwean talks
[I suspect the ANC and ZANU(PF) are both lying about ZANU(PF) & MDC talks. I think they do it to get the world off their backs and they have very little intention of doing anything. Our lying president has told many untruths about Zimbabwe. I chuckle at the lies our President told the German President. Jan]
Zimbabwe’s ruling Zanu-PF party and the Movement for Democratic Change have agreed to resume formal negotiations soon – depending on who you believe.
While this was the contention of President Thabo Mbeki yesterday, Zimbabwe’s main opposition party were not convinced.
A sceptical MDC secretary-general, Welshman Ncube, said there had been no indication from Zanu-PF that it was interested in starting formal, serious dialogue.
“Perhaps Mugabe’s commitment to dialogue is better expressed by Mugabe himself than through Mr Mbeki,” Ncube said.
“This has not happened and we will be naive to believe Mr Mugabe’s intentions through Mr Mbeki, unless of course he (Mugabe) proves his willingness to talk.”
At a press conference in Pretoria after meeting visiting German Chancellor Gerhard Schre(182)¶der, Mbeki said the only reason for the delay was the holidays that had just ended.
“I am quite certain they will negotiate and will find an agreement. We will work with them,” Mbeki said.
Schre(182)¶der himself was forthright in criticising the Zimbabwean government, but also offered support for Mbeki’s diplomacy in Zimbabwe.
“I made myself very clear as far as the unacceptability of that regime is concerned,” he said. “I also made it clear that we support the European position on Zimbabwe and the measures taken.”
He was referring to the so-called smart sanctions that the European Union had imposed on Zimbabwe, which targeted the ruling elite. They include a travel ban and a freeze on their assets.
Schre(182)¶der said these sanctions would be lifted only when Zimbabwe returned to democratic rule. However, he also said he was impressed with the way Mbeki had been dealing with the Zimbabwean situation.
Explaining the apparent contradiction between these two statements, a senior German official said that in their private meeting Schre(182)¶der had told Mbeki he understood that a neighbour that wanted to help Zimbabwe had to deal with the problem in a different way from distant countries in Europe.
But Schre(182)¶der had also told Mbeki that Germany and the EU could not accept that a solution to Zimbabwe’s crisis would take a long time, because many people were dying.
Mbeki said that when he met leaders of Zanu-PF and the MDC in Harare last month, they had agreed to enter into formal discussions.
Mbeki added that he and Schre(182)¶der “take the same approach to Zimbabwe”.
For South Africa, “strong statements cannot be an aim in themselves”, Mbeki added. “The aim must be to change the situation.”
Later, at a banquet hosted in the chancellor’s honour at the Presidential Guesthouse in Pretoria, Schre(182)¶der said South Africa and Germany were linked by the common goal of unifying the nations in their respective regions and continents.
They also shared a common goal of achieving economic and social stability for their populations, he said.
“We are united by our work for unilateralism in the framework of the UN and our efforts in favour of peaceful settlements of conflicts,” he said.
Mbeki pointed to a historic connection between the two countries, for which proof could be found in the fact that several South African towns had German names.
“Our contemporary relations rest on this history, which clearly we must probe further to determine the role of German South Africans in the development of our country.”
Mbeki named various examples of German companies contributing to South Africa’s growth and modernisation.
Schre(182)¶der is on a two-day official visit to South Africa with a large business delegation.
Source: The Star, Johannesburg
URL: http://www.star.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=12…br>